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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;2ulfu9$...@panix.com&gt;, JSG &lt;j...@panix.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I like to visit Chinese herbal stores in the United States and study the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;various things on display. I have many books on the subject and have &lt;br /&gt; &gt;found many interesting things. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Recently, I made a fascinating discovery. Some stores are selling a drug &lt;br /&gt; &gt;in a small blue labelled bottle. I cannot read Chinese characters (I am &lt;br /&gt; &gt;American), but the English says &quot;Taballae diazepami&quot; &#160;2.5 milligrams. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;The man in the store said that the instructions translated &quot;For &lt;br /&gt; &gt;nervousness or sleeplessness, or aggravation, take one to 4 tablets three &lt;br /&gt; &gt;times a day.&quot; The pills sell for two dollars for one hundred. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Could this be valium? It certainly seems like it. It is sold freely over &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the counter in mamy stores, alomg with all sorts of other herbal and oil &lt;br /&gt; &gt;conoctions. Does anyone know anything about this? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;It certainly sounds like diazepam (Valium). &#160;I have found similar &lt;br /&gt; irregularities in Japanese supermarkets in Boston, whose patent &lt;br /&gt; medicines sometime contain Rx-only drugs or even controlled substances &lt;br /&gt; (I recall seeing a cough and cold tablet which contained &lt;br /&gt; dihydrocodeine; I&#039;ve never come across diazepam.) &#160;Such OTC sale is &lt;br /&gt; illegal, of course, but such imports tend not to attract the attention &lt;br /&gt; of the FDA or DEA since their market tends to be a closed community. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Steve Dyer &lt;br /&gt; d...@ursa-major.spdcc.com &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>It certainly sounds like diazepam (Valium). &nbsp;I have found similar <br /> irregularities in Japanese supermarkets in Boston, whose patent <br /> medicines sometime contain Rx-only drugs or even controlled substances <br /> (I recall seeing a cough and cold tablet which contained <br /> dihydrocodeine; I&#8217;ve never come across diazepam.) &nbsp;Such OTC sale is <br /> illegal, of course, but such imports tend not to attract the attention <br /> of the FDA or DEA since their market tends to be a closed community.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Steve Dyer <br /> <a href="mailto:d...@ursa-major.spdcc.com">d&#8230;@ursa-major.spdcc.com</a> </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;In article &lt;2ulfu9$...@panix.com&gt;, JSG &lt;j...@panix.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;I like to visit Chinese herbal stores in the United States and study the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;various things on display. I have many books on the subject and have &lt;br /&gt; &gt;found many interesting things. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Recently, I made a fascinating discovery. Some stores are selling a drug &lt;br /&gt; &gt;in a small blue labelled bottle. I cannot read Chinese characters (I am &lt;br /&gt; &gt;American), but the English says &quot;Taballae diazepami&quot; &#160;2.5 milligrams. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;The man in the store said that the instructions translated &quot;For &lt;br /&gt; &gt;nervousness or sleeplessness, or aggravation, take one to 4 tablets three &lt;br /&gt; &gt;times a day.&quot; The pills sell for two dollars for one hundred. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Could this be valium? It certainly seems like it. It is sold freely over &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the counter in mamy stores, alomg with all sorts of other herbal and oil &lt;br /&gt; &gt;conoctions. Does anyone know anything about this? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;I am obviously not going to tell where I found this medicine, or what &lt;br /&gt; &gt;store. This post is in no way to be construed as an offer to sell this or &lt;br /&gt; &gt;take any compensation to divulge it&#039;s whereabouts. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;I am just curious if anyone knows anything about this thing, perhaps a &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Chinese medical student or someone with more knowledge of drugs. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;JSG &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not a student of pharmacy, but I lived for a year in Shanghai and, &lt;br /&gt; yes, valium is widely available in Chinese pharmacies, both &quot;western&quot; &lt;br /&gt; and, more interestingly, traditional. It seems to be one of the few &lt;br /&gt; western drugs to have made it into the traditional pharmacopia. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a _bottle_, empty, begged from a friend in Shanghai for interest&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; sake. The first of the three characters in the medicine&#039;s name is &quot;An&quot; &lt;br /&gt; [= peace], as in Tian Am Men Square. I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t read the remaining &lt;br /&gt; two characters. Whether the bottle originally contained valium I can&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; tell for sure--I never sampled its contents, nor have I ever taken valium-- &lt;br /&gt; but it would certainly seem that it did. It, too, bears the marking &lt;br /&gt; &quot;tabellae diazepami,&quot; 2.5 [Chinese characters, presumably for mg.]. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This might make valium second only to Mickey Mouse as an American cultural &lt;br /&gt; incursion into the Chinese cultural meainstream. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; David Neal Miller &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; s&#039;vort nekome hot a zin &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ven mit blut farshraybst em &lt;br /&gt; Internet: mille...@osu.edu &lt;br /&gt; Bitnet: &#160; miller.3@ohstmail &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>In article &lt;2ulfu9$&#8230;@panix.com&gt;, JSG &lt;j&#8230;@panix.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;I like to visit Chinese herbal stores in the United States and study the <br /> &gt;various things on display. I have many books on the subject and have <br /> &gt;found many interesting things.  </p>
<p>&gt;Recently, I made a fascinating discovery. Some stores are selling a drug <br /> &gt;in a small blue labelled bottle. I cannot read Chinese characters (I am <br /> &gt;American), but the English says &quot;Taballae diazepami&quot; &nbsp;2.5 milligrams.  </p>
<p>&gt;The man in the store said that the instructions translated &quot;For <br /> &gt;nervousness or sleeplessness, or aggravation, take one to 4 tablets three <br /> &gt;times a day.&quot; The pills sell for two dollars for one hundred.  </p>
<p>&gt;Could this be valium? It certainly seems like it. It is sold freely over <br /> &gt;the counter in mamy stores, alomg with all sorts of other herbal and oil <br /> &gt;conoctions. Does anyone know anything about this?  </p>
<p>&gt;I am obviously not going to tell where I found this medicine, or what <br /> &gt;store. This post is in no way to be construed as an offer to sell this or <br /> &gt;take any compensation to divulge it&#8217;s whereabouts.  </p>
<p>&gt;I am just curious if anyone knows anything about this thing, perhaps a <br /> &gt;Chinese medical student or someone with more knowledge of drugs.  </p>
<p>&gt;JSG </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a student of pharmacy, but I lived for a year in Shanghai and, <br /> yes, valium is widely available in Chinese pharmacies, both &quot;western&quot; <br /> and, more interestingly, traditional. It seems to be one of the few <br /> western drugs to have made it into the traditional pharmacopia.  </p>
<p>I have a _bottle_, empty, begged from a friend in Shanghai for interest&#8217;s <br /> sake. The first of the three characters in the medicine&#8217;s name is &quot;An&quot; <br /> [= peace], as in Tian Am Men Square. I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t read the remaining <br /> two characters. Whether the bottle originally contained valium I can&#8217;t <br /> tell for sure&#8211;I never sampled its contents, nor have I ever taken valium&#8211; <br /> but it would certainly seem that it did. It, too, bears the marking <br /> &quot;tabellae diazepami,&quot; 2.5 [Chinese characters, presumably for mg.].  </p>
<p>This might make valium second only to Mickey Mouse as an American cultural <br /> incursion into the Chinese cultural meainstream.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> David Neal Miller &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; s&#8217;vort nekome hot a zin <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ven mit blut farshraybst em <br /> Internet: <a href="mailto:mille...@osu.edu">mille&#8230;@osu.edu</a> <br /> Bitnet: &nbsp; miller.3@ohstmail </p>
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