To: ALL
From: RICHARD PATTERSON
Subj: Windows ZIP Navigator Release 2.00.00 — Announcement
June 10, 1994 [Houston, TX]. FlashPoint Windows Zip Navigator [ZipNAV] has
been released, and is available for download from CompuServe (WINSHARE and
other Windows related forums), America Online (Windows and other forums),
Genie (Windows, IBM and other forums), Ye Olde Bailey — Houston BBS at
(713) 520-1569.
The shareware/evaluation Windows product is contained in the
self-extracting archive file ZIPNAV.EXE (ZIPNAV.ZIP or ZIPNAV20.ZIP). A
brief description follows:
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File: ZIPNAV.EXE (668316 bytes)
DL time (9600 baud): < 18 minutes
AUTHOR: Richard Patterson (FlashPoint Development)
NEEDS: Windows or Windows for Workgroup 3.1 or greater
Type: Shareware
This is a self-extracting file requiring 1,820,610 bytes when uncompressed
ZipNAV combines the original 100% Windows FlashPoint ZIP/ZIPX & Zip Tools
with all new user interfaces, File Manager extensions, custom menus and
Microsoft Windows for Workgroup support/toolbar buttons, "true" drag and drop
(now drag ZIP archive member files directly TO as well as from File Manager
dirs/zip), optional PKZIP shell, online doc/help, support for programmer/user
applications (apps that can execute a program via WinExec() or macros can
function as a compression/decompression shell), temporary checkout (run,
edit/update, view, print files), standalone text file viewer & much more.
Zip 1.1/2.0 compatible decompression and management; compression limited to
Zip 1.1 file format — so acceptable for America Online uploads. These are
standalone Windows applications; PKZip for DOS is NOT required.
See, DISCOUNT.TXT which describes early registration and competitive
upgrade discounts available on individual and multiple use licenses.
Note: To install, run the self-extracting archive ZIPNAV.EXE in (or unzip
ZIPNAV.ZIP to) a temporary directory. Then run FPSETUP.EXE to install ZipNAV.
Documentation: !, FP_NEWS.WRI plus Online Help
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For further information, contact the author at one of the following
addresses:
E-Mail: Internet — richard.patter…@yob.com
flashpo…@genie.geis.com
flashpt…@aol.com
America Online: FlashPtDev
GEnie: FlashPoint
CompuServe: 70771,1336
Please do not send Internet mail to CompuServe — it will be rejected, as
CIS is the only major online service charging its subscribers an additional
fee for incoming mail from Internet (MCI, AT&T and other non-CIS services).
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John Paul Dalle Vedove writes:
lots of stuff about his sleep disorder and drugs.
Phenobarbital wouldn’t be a problem in the states. I’m having a bear
of a time digging up information on secobarbital right now and I have
no idea what "Tuinal" is. You have a generic name for it?
I have an appointment with my GP on Wednesday specifically to talk
about being put on a schedule II drug – I’ll ask him about the
secobarbital while I’m there.
Also, have you tried taking trazadone?
PCH
In article <HAYES.94Jun19034…@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu>,
Patrick Hayes <ha…@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>Phenobarbital wouldn’t be a problem in the states. I’m having a bear
>of a time digging up information on secobarbital right now and I have
>no idea what "Tuinal" is. You have a generic name for it?
Tuinal is a tradename for the combination of secobarbital and
amobarbital. Secobarbital is a fast-acting barbiturate which
was formerly popular as a hypnotic; amobarbital is similar, but
has a somewhat longer duration of action. The presumptive
therapeutic rationale for this combination is that it causes
you to fall asleep fast (from the secobarbital) and stay asleep
(from the amobarbital.) I doubt that this combination had ever
been shown to be more effective than one drug or the other used
alone, though short-acting hypnotics can cause early-morning
awakenings in some patients with insomnia. All of these barbiturates
were popular drugs of abuse up through the early 1970′s, before they
were moved into Schedule II by the DEA. That you don’t recognize
what "Tuinal" is probably reflects just how infrequently such drugs
are used today.
>I have an appointment with my GP on Wednesday specifically to talk
>about being put on a schedule II drug – I’ll ask him about the
>secobarbital while I’m there.
I’d be very surprised if anyone would have much luck being
prescribed barbiturates for insomnia, especially chronic
insomnia. A referral to a sleep clinic would seem to be
what’s indicated here.
>Also, have you tried taking trazadone?
Trazodone is an antidepressant which is quite sedative, and which
has been prescribed to treat insomnia in depressed individuals, especially
insomnia secondary to other antidepressant drugs like the SSRIs.
–
Steve Dyer
d…@ursa-major.spdcc.com
Tuninal (r) is equal parts Secobarbital sodium and amytal sodium useas as
sedative hypnoticmade by Lilly (Facts and Comparisions)
In article <HAYES.94Jun19034…@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu>, Patrick Hayes wrote:
>John Paul Dalle Vedove writes:
> lots of stuff about his sleep disorder and drugs.
>Phenobarbital wouldn’t be a problem in the states. I’m having a bear
>of a time digging up information on secobarbital right now and I have
>no idea what "Tuinal" is. You have a generic name for it?
Seconal is a short-acting barbiturate with rapid onset of action. Its
primary use is for pre-operative sedation. Getting a ‘script is like
pulling a tooth. They are called ‘reds’ on the street.
Tuinal is a combo of seconal and amytal — two-in-all. It ‘put you
out quick (seconal) and keeps you out long (amytal).’
Both of these drugs, being barbs, are difficult to get. Though you
can develop a tolerance, requiring higher and higher doses, your
tolerance to liver toxicity doesn’t increase. That’s dangerous.
For you who are taking 90 mg of Dalmane, please understand that this
drug has a long half-life. By now, you have a nearly constant level
in your body, which makes it almost worthless. You need to dry out
and change docs.
Good luck
…………………………………………………………….
Dennis R. Hilton <drhil…@kaiwan.com>
"The tree of liberty must be watered periodically with the blood of
tyrants and patriots alike. It is its natural manure."
— Thomas Jefferson
DRHil…@kaiwan.com (Dennis R. Hilton) writes:
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> In article <HAYES.94Jun19034…@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu>, Patrick Hayes wrote:
> >John Paul Dalle Vedove writes:
> > lots of stuff about his sleep disorder and drugs.
> >Phenobarbital wouldn’t be a problem in the states. I’m having a bear
> >of a time digging up information on secobarbital right now and I have
> >no idea what "Tuinal" is. You have a generic name for it?
> Seconal is a short-acting barbiturate with rapid onset of action. Its
> primary use is for pre-operative sedation. Getting a ‘script is like
> pulling a tooth. They are called ‘reds’ on the street.
> Tuinal is a combo of seconal and amytal — two-in-all. It ‘put you
> out quick (seconal) and keeps you out long (amytal).’
> Both of these drugs, being barbs, are difficult to get. Though you
> can develop a tolerance, requiring higher and higher doses, your
> tolerance to liver toxicity doesn’t increase. That’s dangerous.
Actually, tolerance develops to the psychoactives effects
(sedation) but tolerance doesn’t develop as fast to the respiratory
depression as fast, thus you could take a does that wouldn’t put you to
sleep (or even sedate you) but would depress your breathing to the point
at which you die. That’s was so dangerous about barbiturates.
: DRHil…@kaiwan.com (Dennis R. Hilton) writes:
: > In article <HAYES.94Jun19034…@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu>, Patrick Hayes wrote:
: > >John Paul Dalle Vedove writes:
: > >
: > > lots of stuff about his sleep disorder and drugs.
: > >
: > >Phenobarbital wouldn’t be a problem in the states. I’m having a bear
: > >of a time digging up information on secobarbital right now and I have
: > >no idea what "Tuinal" is. You have a generic name for it?
: >
: > Seconal is a short-acting barbiturate with rapid onset of action. Its
: > primary use is for pre-operative sedation. Getting a ‘script is like
: > pulling a tooth. They are called ‘reds’ on the street.
: >
: > Tuinal is a combo of seconal and amytal — two-in-all. It ‘put you
: > out quick (seconal) and keeps you out long (amytal).’
: >
: > Both of these drugs, being barbs, are difficult to get. Though you
: > can develop a tolerance, requiring higher and higher doses, your
: > tolerance to liver toxicity doesn’t increase. That’s dangerous.
: Actually, tolerance develops to the psychoactives effects
: (sedation) but tolerance doesn’t develop as fast to the respiratory
: depression as fast, thus you could take a does that wouldn’t put you to
: sleep (or even sedate you) but would depress your breathing to the point
: at which you die. That’s was so dangerous about barbiturates.
I don’t think the issue is the abuse potential of short acting barbs
but rather their toxicity. Unlike benzodiazepines which give you a large
margin for error in dosing, barbs taken at even moderate doses
(and especially when combined with other CNS depressants) can cause
morbidity
or mortality. Any doctor prescribing a drug like Tuinal has be reasonably
certain that his patient won’t mistakenly wind up dead in a week. The
resulting law suit would certainly be strong.
Besides, I don’t think Tuinal is the answer. Tolerance to those drugs
develops after a matter of days. Also.. Dalmane is a HORRIBLE drug to take
chronically especially at your dose. A metabolite builds up and effects
you all day long. This definitely increases your chances of a car
accident and probably decreases your job performance. Did you ever try
Restoril (Temazepam) or Ambien (Zolpidem)? They have a shorter half life
and are alot safer than barbs.
Good luck in your quest for sleep.